Do Matt Murdock and Daisy Johnson know each other?

They both went to St. Anges Orphanage around the same time, so it's entirely possible that they know each other from there. Also, before anyone says Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. isn't canon (which is a conversation I am really tired of, especially on this subreddit), the entire MCU is canon to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., so even if it's not canon, there are versions of all these characters in the world of Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., so just take it that way if you're a non-canoner.

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BroeknRecrds2025-10-10 03:48

It's possible they interacted at some point when they were kids, but I doubt they know each other personally still today. Otherwise they would've mentioned it

Working_Original_2002025-10-10 04:11

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Icybubba2025-10-10 04:25

And we have made it a canon debate.

Look taking out Marvel Studios for a second. Daredevil references AoS and AoS references Daredevil. So with that in mind, whether or not AoS is Canon to the MCU, AoS and Daredevil are canon to each other. So in the AoS world MCU or not, Matt Murdock is running around.

Now stop being an a-hole and join the speculation.

JBTriple2025-10-10 04:51

What references does Daredevil make to AoS?

NazzerDawk2025-10-10 05:15

They both have the same biker gang (in name at least), and both have the same orphanage. Not much else.

Icybubba2025-10-10 09:39

The news paper that Karen works at has a headline framed on their wall talking about Cybertek legal issues and collapse. Don't remember the exact episode, but pretty sure it is season 1.

Also Punisher season 1 has Micro who was first mentioned in AoS season 2. Oh and Carl Creel was in AoS first

sweetdavybrown2025-10-10 05:22

Carl "Crusher" Creel (Absorbing Man) exists in both shows

Icybubba2025-10-10 09:42

Lots of little things, but the most notable one which directly references something that happened in AoS was a framed newspaper headline talking about Cybertek legal issues.

ParkerLF2025-10-10 05:28

They’re not.

ParkerLF2025-10-10 05:28

How does that make sense? They don’t just go around mentioning everybody they know personally if it has nothing to do with what’s going on

DanFromShipping2025-10-10 06:06

I start every morning with a coffee and a monologue of every person I've ever met.

0x424d422025-10-10 06:09

This is the way.

jammerb2025-10-10 08:59

Why I try not to meet people

GottLiebtJeden2025-10-10 10:39

Another Man of culture I see

Dycoth2025-10-10 08:35

Because as long as it isn't explicitly shown on screen, we can't just purely assume relationship between characters.

Otherwise I guess Doctor Strange hangs with Sam everyday other night to have drink and dance a bit. They live in the same city and have fought together, it's enough.

ParkerLF2025-10-10 08:40

I’m not assuming that they know each other. I’m just saying that the lack of a mention doesn’t make it impossible. The comment I replied to literally said that if they did know each other, they would have mentioned it. Which isn’t necessarily the case. It’s possible for two people to know each other and not bring it up.

Eastern_Hornet_64322025-10-10 09:15

Do they live in the same city? I thought Sam lived in Washington. He did in TWS, at least.

GottLiebtJeden2025-10-10 10:40

But he is from Louisiana originally

Antrikshy2025-10-10 07:51

How often do you bring up childhood classmates in everyday conversation?

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TheTerraKotKun2025-10-10 09:04

It was so many shit happening in 4-7 seasons so I don't think that they are in same universe now...

El_Spaniard2025-10-10 09:44

Slept*

DataSurging2025-10-10 03:51

Isn't Daisy much younger than Matt? I don't think he would have been there still when she was.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 03:55

She was born in 1988, he was born the mid 80s. He's only a few years older than her, so it's possible that they were there at the same time.

DataSurging2025-10-10 04:05

Ah, okay. It's been a while since I watched Agents, thought she was a teenager in the start. My bad. lol

Commercial_Site6222025-10-10 05:42

Well, Johnson does look very young, so I understand.

Madmonkeman2025-10-10 06:35

I think she’s 25 in season 2

blackbutterfree2025-10-10 07:26

Chloe (the actress) was 19 during Season 1, so you're not wrong. Daisy (the character) is like 6 years older than her.

I also thought Daisy was meant to be a teenager, since Quake is 17 when we first meet her in the comics and to this day is probably like 19-20 at the absolute oldest.

PCofSHIELD2025-10-10 10:46

Chloe was 21 when AOS started

IAmBadAtInternet2025-10-10 16:05

How old was she when AoS was filming though

TowelShoddy61792025-10-11 16:20

she was 19 and she lied about her age i'm glad she did

Earthwick2025-10-10 16:15

How many 5th graders did you know in 8th or 9th grade? He was also blind and going through a bunch of stuff.

Helpful-Idea-44852025-10-10 21:58

They were in a Catholic orphanage. The odds of them knowing other would have been pretty high.

Uncanny_Doom2025-10-10 04:08

They’re actually close to the same age but it doesn’t seem that way because Charlie Cox looked older than he was while playing a 29-30 year old Matt on Daredevil and Chloe Bennett looks younger than she is playing a 25-26 year old when Agents of Shield began. They also didn’t establish Daisy’s age until season 2 and honestly in season 1 it seems like they intended for her to be more like 19-20.

writeman002025-10-10 13:22

Yeah but she's on his hit list. 😏

Uncanny_Doom2025-10-10 03:59

It’s possible they were aware each other but wouldn’t bet on any notable relationship. It’s a cool potential tie though.

Specific_Valuable_122025-10-10 04:01

Wow, I had no idea they went to the same orphanage, that's a crazy little detail.

Dlh20792025-10-10 04:08

We have no way of knowing...

kiddfrank2025-10-10 04:16

What’s up with all these AoS posts lately?

Onar_Koma2025-10-10 04:26

They won’t let it go

Triforce8052025-10-10 06:14

Hey power to them! If they’re passionate about a show what’s wrong with them posting about it? As long as they’re not spamming the same thing over and over of course, but they’ve all been different posts.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 06:34

Thank You! Unfortunately, a lot of the comments are pretty similar whining about canon across all of those posts.

AUnknownVariable2025-10-10 08:53

I wouldn't say it's that they won't let go. It was a good show that also dabbled in weird universe shit, I get wanting at least the main character to return to the main universe.

Rman8232025-10-10 04:37

They’ve all been from OP

Adventurous-Monk40812025-10-10 06:08

Seriously

CaptHayfever2025-10-10 07:40

It's specifically intended to annoy *you* personally.

_JustAnna_19922025-10-10 08:35

Dude!!! It's not as fun if he knows!

Aight guys missions over.

raknor882025-10-10 10:44

Na, Nic Fury invites them to TAHITI.

magpye19832025-10-10 12:37

It’s a magical place.

kiddfrank2025-10-10 16:58

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Mr___Wrong2025-10-10 04:17

Let's hope not as she is the most boring Marvel character there is.

BarnOscarsson2025-10-10 04:19

I think there’s a decent argument to be made they knew each other.

I think it’s also worth noting they have both been the topic of national news.

Daisy could have remembered Matt’s name, and she might make the connection if she saw him on television or online during coverage of the Punisher trial.

Matt could have remembered Daisy’s name, but he has much less chance recognizing her as the new face of SHIELD. He has no visual cues to go by, and her voice (and scent) would have changed during adolescence.

ell_hou2025-10-10 06:56

No chance Matt would connect Quake/Daisy to a girl he knew as "Mary Sue Poots"

Not_Steve2025-10-10 07:07

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen AoS, but Matt wouldn’t know Daisy’s name. Isn’t Daisy her birth name that she only learned about as an adult? He might know her as Skye, but not Daisy so that would be even less of a chance of him recognizing her. She’d have to tell him exactly who she was as a kid for him to know.

V2Blast2025-10-10 07:33

You are correct. Technically she went by "Mary Sue Poots" when she was in the orphanage. Skye is sort of her hacker name as a young adult.

Not_Steve2025-10-10 07:41

Ah! Thank you!

Tbh, I’m sure he would remember somebody who had the name “Mary Sue Poots.” That a name sticks out (but not to me, apparently lol).

LebasketBall2025-10-10 04:26

Yes they’ve definitely banged too

Ornery_10042025-10-10 04:41

Knowing DD, he probably DDed her. He is a manwhore.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 05:07

They were children.

Aglet_Green2025-10-10 04:50

Doesn't matter. There's a scene in daredevil season 2 around mid way through the season where Foggy Nelson goes to a biker gang to get information on the Punisher. And he keeps saying "I know your gang leader. We were in the 3rd grade together in St. Agnes." No one remembers him, and they nearly take him out back and beat him up, but one guy feels that Foggy is the enemy of their enemy and lets him go.

Daisy might know that in her school was some blind kid a few grades ahead of her. However, Matt would only remember a little girl with some random name like Mary Sue Poots. (Google "Mary Sue Poots" if you don't remember that this was her St. Agnes name.)

iheartdev2472025-10-10 04:54

Why would they?

alexjf562025-10-10 05:59

Cuz they went to the same orphanage

DigificWriter2025-10-10 05:25

There is no such person as Daisy Johnson/Skye/Quake in the MCU.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 05:41

Not you again. Can you see the words 'Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.' or anything AoS-adjacent without immediately running to say 'Not canon'?

DigificWriter2025-10-10 05:45

No.

Nor should I have to.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 05:47

I'm not to sure about that. Anyways, read the post, I wrote a whole section for people like you:

> Also, before anyone says Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. isn't canon (which is a conversation I am really tired of, especially on this subreddit), the entire MCU is canon to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., so even if it's not canon, there are versions of all these characters in the world of Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., so just take it that way if you're a non-canoner.

DigificWriter2025-10-10 05:51

"the entire MCU is canon to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D., so even if it's not canon, there are versions of all these characters in the world of Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.,"

That's not how Canon works.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 05:56

It is in AoS' case. The Winter Soldier happened in the world of AoS, so even if AoS is a branched timeline, the vast majority of the things in the MCU also happened in AoS. It's one thing to say that the MCU works without AoS, but it's another thing to say that AoS works without the MCU. The vast majority of things in AoS would not happen if the things in the MCU never happened.

DigificWriter2025-10-10 06:01

AoS' multiple references to MCU events mean nothing because AoS in its entirety means nothing.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 06:06

Did you just say that the hard work of the cast and crew over seven long years and 136 episodes means nothing just because you think that it isn't connected to movies?

DigificWriter2025-10-10 06:20

AoS has no narrative relevance to anything other than itself.

Stating that fact is not in any way denigrating the hard work of the people who made it.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 06:25

You said that it means nothing. The amazing cast, the brilliant and somewhat evil writers, fans who kept the show going for years, and everyone who campaigned for #CoulsonLives and got the show made would disagree.

blackbutterfree2025-10-10 07:32

Actually, that's exactly how this works.

Even if you don't believe this show happened in the MCU, events similar or identical to those of the MCU happened in this show. Meaning those characters that participated in those events exist within this show.

DamnedLife2025-10-10 08:21

This guy has multiple accounts downvoting you and his main incessantly writes these stupid posts about AoS, thinking his posts can make it canon. Well it can’t, it’s not canon.

_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_2025-10-10 09:04

It couldn’t possibly be multiple different people who think their whining is irrelevant and annoying.

Legonistrasz2025-10-10 05:34

In the comics they were both at the same orphanage, but I don’t know if the ages match up in the MCU

blackbutterfree2025-10-10 07:28

Daisy was never in an orphanage in the comics. She was adopted and renamed Cory Sutter right out of the womb and raised by her adoptive parents until her powers activated at 17 and she was personally trained by Nick Fury.

LordBuddah2025-10-10 05:39

Weird question! In my head canon, no. Because Matt's a pimp and I'm not letting my Daisy anywhere near that dude. 🤣

Grumpiergoat2025-10-10 05:49

100% no.

SlAM1332025-10-10 06:05

Matt has probably never seen her

YasuoSwag2025-10-10 07:06

He sensed that puss

jarrjarrbinks242025-10-10 07:17

Matthew "Manwhore" Murdock indeed

belladonnagilkey2025-10-10 07:49

He could barely go ten minutes without seducing someone, and in fairness, who wouldn't wanna "lawyer up" with Charlie Cox in a nice suit?

TheTerraKotKun2025-10-10 09:00

Even me, straight man, wouldn't mind it, I think 🤔

MasterAnnatar2025-10-10 09:25

If they DID know each other they would have been young children at the time they were both at the orphanage together. Weird thing to say my guy.

OneTwentyOneFunyuns2025-10-10 09:49

“They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.”

Thokturn2025-10-10 07:18

Kagir2025-10-10 09:41

*angry upvote*

Molly_and_Thorns2025-10-10 13:35

Ok, it wasn't just me.

Careful-Wash2025-10-10 15:16

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ZackRaynor2025-10-10 15:52

He might have heard of her.

GalaxyStrong2025-10-10 21:16

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timjim2282025-10-11 00:31

Elite comment

HyruleBalverine2025-10-12 00:16

I see what you did there.

xylotism2025-10-12 06:36

But he knows her, in the biblical sense.

esar242025-10-10 06:39

Just because the are in the same orphanage then it doesn't automatically made them know each other, I mean how many people do you remember from your kindergarten or primary school? Can you even mention 5 person you know from different class?

marvelcomics222025-10-10 06:41

Well, I can, but we don't know, which is why the question is being raised.

esar242025-10-10 06:43

Unless daisy make an expression on matt then I doubt they even knew each other, not to mention matt has his own trouble with the whole blind thing and probably focus more on his studies.

blackbutterfree2025-10-10 07:29

Going to school together and *living together* are two very different things.

Eastern_Hornet_64322025-10-10 09:21

I wonder how many children were in that orphanage? Daisy probably would have been adopted eventually, but unfortunately for Matt, few couples want to adopt the blind kid who's already 10 with anger management issues.

Reddeath101682025-10-10 06:54

Maybe they knew each other in the orphanage but I don’t think they would remember each other in a day to day basis like oh I wonder how he or she is doing.

blackbutterfree2025-10-10 07:25

They were at the same orphanage, and in my head canon they absolutely know each other, but it's not likely that they did.

Daisy was dropped off at St. Agnes shortly after her birth and then got immediately bounced around from foster home to foster home with the occasional orphanage in there for good measure because SHIELD intervened to make sure Zabo and Jiaying could never find her. She's also implied to have run away somewhere in her mid to late teens to live on her own.

Whereas Matt arrived to the orphanage as a preteen and presumably bided his time until he aged out at 18.

They were probably never at the orphanage at the exact same time.

And for the record, Agents of SHIELD is 100% canon to me.

DamnedLife2025-10-10 08:23

That’s not how canon works, it doesn’t depend on one person’s preference.

blackbutterfree2025-10-10 15:06

Didn't ask, don't care.

hansuluthegrey2025-10-10 07:27

Theres no reason to assume that they do

Romnonaldao2025-10-10 07:36

She was going in as he was going out.

They might have crossed paths, but highly doubtful they hung out regularly or were friends

SquirrelPristine65672025-10-10 07:47

Only intimately by smell...

KlausLoganWard2025-10-10 07:49

There were hints, they grew up in the same orpanage

CaptHayfever2025-10-10 07:58

They're about the same age, but they wouldn't have been there at the same time. Daisy was only in the orphanage as a younger kid before SHIELD started moving her around between foster homes, & Matt didn't go there until his father died when he was around 9-10 years old.

allanjacob232025-10-10 08:02

Same orphanage

DamnedLife2025-10-10 08:15

First of all, Agents of Shield isn’t canon and what’s more it’s just a shitty show. Also there’s no need to rack your brain for things that don’t matter, it’s not canon and that’s also my second point.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 08:19

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. is canon, it's a great show, and even if it isn't canon, the MCU is canon to it.

DamnedLife2025-10-10 08:28

That’s not how canon works. Marvel comics and MCU are the canon maker and decider, it doesn’t matter what your shitty show claims, it’s not part of the bigger unit and not canon. And it’s a shitty, second rate show.

marvelcomics222025-10-10 08:32

They never explicitly said that it's not canon.

SethBLAKE2025-10-10 18:14

They also never explicitly said that the storylines I thought up between my action figures when I was ten wasn’t cannon.

If it was cannon they would’ve flat out said it is, like they have for daredevil. Why else would you want fans of the tv shows to feel alienated if you’re considering them part of your bigger picture.

Phaze_Nero2025-10-10 08:21

They're not even in the same universe.

Redneck_Duck692025-10-10 14:59

They were. Agents of shield was without a doubt canon up until sometime after age of ultron. My personal head canon is they existed in the same universe until the time travel stuff on agents of shield.

SethBLAKE2025-10-10 18:12

There was clear indication that Marvel Studios, a different subsidiary with no involvement with the TV product at the time, never acknowledged, took into consideration or generally gave the slightest hint of a shit about what’s going on on the TV side of things or keeping continuity with it. The MCU was cannon to the TV Universe because that was their main selling point, but the TV Universe was never actually canon to the MCU.

Now that the dust has settled we’re seeing Feige selectively pick and choose what he wants to retroactively include in MCU canon, so we may end up seeing acknowledgement of the AoS stuff down the line, but until then it’s pretty firmly not cannon.

frezz2025-10-10 08:40

Sure

savvyxxl2025-10-10 08:54

He’s never seen that woman in his life

Redneck_Duck692025-10-10 14:58

Watch agents of shield, it’s pretty good actually.

BigfootsBestBud2025-10-10 08:59

Daisy is younger than Matt, she's meant to be early 20s in AoS, around about the same time when Matt was meant to be around late 20s/early 30s in Daredevil.

Plus, I dont think every kid knows every kid at their orphanage.

Terrible-Group-96022025-10-10 09:19

Idk but hell, I'd love to see Quake return.

dawne_breaker2025-10-10 09:24

They've probably slept together. She's hot after all.

CyberKitten052025-10-10 09:32

About Daredevil's canonicity to AoS and Vice Versa, Absorption Man from AoS was mentioned in Daredevil, so

Pretend-Meaning-15362025-10-10 09:47

daisy would’ve been at the orphanage a couple of years before Matt did but seeing as she grew up there hypothetically they would’ve met at some point

nudeldifudel2025-10-10 10:18

I think a flashback to when Matt was a kid in the orphanage, with Daisy/Sky/Mary Suu poots making a short cameo/appearance as a child, in BA season 2 would be awesome. Like it could be about Matts trauma or something, and you just see someone calling someone Mary suu poots in the background or something.

RoxyFan20012025-10-10 10:38

Not sure but I would love to see Daisy return since Quake is one of my favourite Marvel superheroes. 😀

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AgentKnitter2025-10-10 10:54

Maybe.

NrFive2025-10-10 11:50

They are both hot. In the same universe.

Of course they know each other! It’s only logical 😅🤣

Rockalot_L2025-10-10 12:00

I never finished Agent's, she still alive? I'd love to see her again

PMMEBITCOINPLZ2025-10-10 15:49

She’s still alive in the AoS universe at the end of the show but it’s an open question if she’s still alive in the MCU. AoS explicitly splits from the MCU by creating an alternate timeline through reckless time travel shenanigans around season five. By the end of the series SHIELD has been fully restored with a fleet of Helicarriers, a new Triskellion, and Mac as the new leader and we haven’t seen a hint of that in the movie timeline. It’s possibly that at some point the MCU AoS simply disappeared in one of the time travel incidents.

CrimsonBeherit2025-10-10 12:25

I need her back, Marvel please

AsherthonX2025-10-10 12:30

Does the actress still jump on Logan Paul’s Johnson?

kencaps2025-10-10 12:42

Is there a way to unsubscribe to all Agents of Shield posts

Aggravating_Bonus_242025-10-10 13:03

Would be a great couple

ShatterX232025-10-10 13:54

They have an orphan group chat but neither post or check it.

JANTlvr2025-10-10 14:02

I don't see why the makers of these shows would have included the detail of St. Agnes Orphanage in both shows if they didn't want us to conclude that they probably met at some point.

ToughFox44792025-10-10 14:35

Probably, they are around the same age and live in the same orphanage

Western-Chart-67192025-10-10 14:46

Yeah, it’s possible. Their timelines line up, and their personalities would’ve made for an interesting dynamic. It’s the kind of small connection Marvel could easily make canon if they wanted to.

String29242025-10-10 14:49

He defended her on a dui once...

PMMEBITCOINPLZ2025-10-10 15:31

It’s an interesting question cause there’s a poster in Daredevil advertising Battling Jack Murdock fighting Carl “Crusher” Creel and some things around that fight are dramatized. Crusher Creel, kind of a weird low budget version, was on Agents of Shield as The Absorbing Man. So they have this mutual point of connection.

SalukiKnightX2025-10-10 15:42

I think the story is that Micro, Daisy and Matt were in the same orphanage

MuchDelivery85372025-10-10 15:45

I wish I knew Daisy

Dell0c02025-10-10 15:49

In some universe they do.

DangleberryFortune2025-10-10 16:07

Daredevil also had Matt's father fight against absorbing man or something, but it only becomes apparent that it was absorbing man when he shows up in Agents of Shield.

Netflix shows put a lot of effort into synergy with other marvel shows.

[Example - The "Judas Bullet"](https://youtu.be/PfVT6ob63AY?si=U5IMhglpd33x71Bx) (TW gory)

Earthwick2025-10-10 16:14

They may have been there at the same time but he would have been at least 3 years older and blind and going through stuff at the time so I highly doubt he was familiar with her.

Noyaiba2025-10-10 17:16

I bet Matt wakes up in panic sweats when he feels her quaking shit in California.

werd7132025-10-10 17:19

In the comics, absolutely. They met in Secret War (her first appearance).

New_Professor68802025-10-10 18:05

She’s on the list

SethBLAKE2025-10-10 18:09

I’ll say this, as a canon denier (because agents of shield isn’t cannon), I do appreciate your mention that at the very least the MCU is canon to AoS, and I agree that it does lead to some interesting conversations.

blackmatter6152025-10-10 22:40

They’d have to both actually be in the MCU for that to matter

Scarletspyder862025-10-11 01:13

ChosenMaaaster2025-10-11 06:17

I hope so!

NoCompetition29542025-10-11 07:18

Not a chance

xdrkcldx2025-10-11 09:21

BackgroundTotal28722025-10-11 09:29

I don’t think there’s anything canon about them having met, but this does explain all the fanfiction I’ve come across where these two know each other.

Elegant_Distance96202025-10-11 17:36

Chloe Bennett is only 33. Damn

COGUAddict2025-10-11 19:26

No way to know for sure as it hasn't been mentioned on screen, so any answer your going to get is just conjecture.

NoTourist50092025-10-11 20:59

Agents of Shield post in 2025 omg

redrefugee2025-10-12 02:53

One of Matts superpowers, is knowing who is hot. So if they did cross paths, Matt knows her.

BravoLeader30002025-10-13 19:41

The team-up I never knew I wanted!

BravoLeader30002025-10-13 19:54

OT, but JFC people! AoS fought Hydra at the same time Cap did, AoS supplied the helicarrier Fury and Hill used in AoU, and Thanos' attack on Wakanda was mentioned while AoS were fighting Talbot-Graviton in Chicago - it's the same fucking universe!!!

rosydreamerr2025-10-13 22:12

nah they’ve never actually met in the mcu. matt’s from the defenders side of things and daisy’s from agents of shield, which was kinda its own separate thing. they exist in the same universe in the comics, but they haven’t really crossed paths there either. would be cool if marvel connected them at some point tho, they’d make a solid duo.